The Southside Killer

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[SPEAKER_00]: Warning check the locks podcast is a true crime podcast and may contain graphic descriptions of violence, murder, sexual assault, and more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In 1987, several women in the Virginia area are found brutally raped and murdered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives believe it's the work of a single man, but they'll need to rely on an experimental new technology to capture their killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Join me, John Connor, as I discuss the hunt for the South Side Strangler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Check The Locks Podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello and thank you for joining me as I dive into yet another truly terrifying true crime case before we get started is always just wanted to say that I hope you're having a wonderful week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like always, I just want to say thank you for letting me hang out with you why you are doing whatever it is that you were doing today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: super excited to jump into this week's case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I say this every week, but this is one that I was not familiar with and that's why I wanted to jump into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this story seems like it should be more well-known.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised that it's not out there in the Lexicon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really hear a lot of people talking about it in...

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[SPEAKER_01]: conversations around big true prime cases and things of that nature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very excited to find out if this is something that you are aware of maybe this is just something that wasn't on my radar and I do know I'm thinking of some specific listeners that live in the area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: where this story took place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very interested to know if this was something that you were familiar with around this time, or if it's something that still gets talked about there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So super excited to break into it and cover the details.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that being said, let's quit the Gabby Gabby jump into the stabby stabby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go ahead and break down this

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[SPEAKER_01]: 44-year-old Susan Tucker was a publication's editor, working for the United States Forest Service in Arlington, Virginia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This year, Susan spent the holiday alone, as her husband Reggie had been in Wales, traveling for work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While Reggie was away, the couple would talk on the phone frequently, but suddenly Susan stopped answering, in Reggie grew worried.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Around the same time, neighbors noticed that Susan's bedroom window had been open for a few days, which was odd given the cold weather at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The neighbors who were also concerned contacted the police, and when officers arrived, they made a gruesome discovery on December 1, 1987.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they approached the home, they noticed that the door was open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As they entered, they immediately found a woman's purse lying on the four-year floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Officers made their way through the home into the bedroom, and what they found was shocking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There, lying face down on the bed, was the body of Susan Tucker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had been strangled, a slip-notted rope had been placed around her neck, with the open end used to bind her hands behind her back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her feet had also been tied together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Susan's night gown was on the bed, but the blue sleeping bag partially covering the body,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The body was beginning to decompose, leading investigators to believe that she had been murdered three to four days prior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They also believed that whoever killed Susan had spent time in the home afterwards, as the residents had been ransacked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drawers were open with a couple of things thrown all about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now while investigating, detectors found no suspicious fingerprints, and this led them to believe that their killer had worn gloves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever attacks Susan had entered the home by breaking into a basement window, and they spent time meticulously cleaning around the area so it was not to have footprint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Police would collect the sheets and the sleeping bag with detectives hoping to find either blood or semen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives also discovered several hairs in the home, as well as collecting several shards of broken glass from the basement window, and the rope that was used to strangles

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to detectives, something about this murder seem familiar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They believe that they may have seen this killer's work before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three years earlier, and only four blocks away, a 32-year-old lawyer named Carolyn Haam had been raped and murdered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The killer, in that case, had entered the Haam home the same way by breaking out a basement window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like Susan, Carolyn had been strangled with the same type of knot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her body would be discovered on January 25, 1984

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the home case was closed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A man named David Vasquez had confessed and been sentenced to 35 years in prison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vasquez had an IQ of less than 70 and was working as a high school janitor at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, detectives wondered if Vasquez may have had a partner, so they decided to sit down with him for an interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But during the questioning, Vasquez claimed innocence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And after speaking with him for several hours, detectives left feeling that he may have actually had nothing to do with Carolyn Holmes murder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, they were on the hunt for a killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not knowing that only a hundred miles away in nearby Richmond, he may have struck again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, there, police were investigating a string of shockingly similar murders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And less than a month, two women in Richmond had been raped and strangled inside of their homes, only a few blocks away from each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Susan Tucker, 35-year-old Debbie Davis was found lying on her bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The killer had fashioned a sock and a vacuum cleaner hose into a ligature, and police discovered the murder on Saturday, September 1987.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After the victim's car was found empty and running in a nearby neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like Susan Tucker and Carolyn Ham, the killer had entered the home through a window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, on October 2, 1987, another victim was found, 32-year-old Dr. Susan Halombs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her body was discovered by her husband after returning home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the victims before, Susan had also been strangled and raped, but this time the killer used belts in an extension cord, and he had entered the home by cutting out a section

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[SPEAKER_01]: two weeks later, the killer would strike again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This time taking the life of his youngest victim, 15-year-old Diane Cho.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On November 21, 1987, Diane told her parents that she was going to bed and she took off her room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would later hear their daughter typing but then, quiet, and they assumed that she had just turned in for the evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next morning, Diane's parents got up early and left the house for work, believing that their daughter was still asleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. and Mrs. Chow returned home at around 2 p.m. and when they entered Diane's room, they made a devastating and heartbreaking discovery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their lying nude on her bed was the body of their daughter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Susan Tucker, a slipknot was tied around her neck and binding her hands from behind her back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the previous victims, Diana had been raped, but there was something different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The killer seemed to have left a type of signature, a figure eight painted a nail polish on Diana's hip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When finding out about these murders, police in Arlington immediately believed that they were connected, and to them they were on the hunt for a serial killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Richmond detectives weren't so sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Debbie Davis, Dr. Susan Halam, and Diane Cho were found within a few miles of each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Susan Tucker and Carolyn Ham were found a hundred miles away, making it hard for them to believe that the murders could be connected in any kind of way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But back in Arlington, detectives had to follow their guts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if the murders were the work of one killer, they hoped that the evidence collected at Susan Tucker's home could prove it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when forensics results came back, several seamen stains had been found.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm both debating and the sleeping bag recovered from the scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when compared to samples in the Carolyn Home case, they were a perfect match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The same man had murdered both women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The hairs found in the Tucker home were also tested, and it was found to be a pubic hair from an African-American male.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see shortly before Carolyn Homm was murdered, several women in the same neighborhood had reported being raped, with all of the victims describing their attacker as a black male in a ski mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But sadly, the rapist was never caught, and detectives now believe that the attacker was the same man, with his violent urges growing and escalating over time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, with this evidence in hand, both the Richmond police and the Arlington police turn to the FBI for help, specifically the behavioral science unit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I know a lot of our listeners are familiar with criminal minds, so you actually may know a little bit about this particular team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Members of the Behavioral Science Unit have interviewed hundreds of serial killers, discovering similarities in building personality profiles, and using the information they had on this case, they were able to make several predictions about the man the police were hunting for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, the fact that the killer had attacked his victims in their home was an indicator that he had stalked them, both learning their routines and moments of vulnerability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: According to the profile, the killer was most likely between the ages of 18 and 30 years old, with people describing him as the quiet type.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Suggesting that he would be a loner with little to no social circle and probably work a menial job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Profiler's also believes that the killer may have had a troubled relationship with his own mother, and that he most likely began as an arsonist before graduating to rape and murder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, they believed that the killer lived or worked in the area where the first crimes were committed, because, like most predators, you hunt where you feel the most comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The strangulation would suggest sadism, believing that the killer would periodically release the bindings, hoping to hear his victims beg for their lives, taking pleasure in the suffering that he was inflicting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: detectives now had a profile and they had DNA, but you have to remember in 1987, DNA was fairly new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it had only been used in court for the first time a year prior across the pond in England.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was the detectives' best shot at catching their killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, they decided to send the Seaman samples to the Life Codes Laboratory in New York.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, when they received it, forensic scientists were concerned that the sample may have degraded or could potentially be contaminated over time, and they did advise detectives that processing could take up to 10 weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With this long of a wait time and no viable suspects, detectives were growing concerned, hoping that they could catch this killer before he struck again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, they went back to an area of Arlington called Green Valley, where the first reported rape occurred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was then that one of the detectives remembered something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Years ago, they had a run-in with a then juvenile in that area who seemed to fit the FBI's profile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His name was Timothy Wilson Spencer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a teenager, Spencer had a long arrest record, mostly for burglary, but it was his first encounter with police that really jumped out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, Spencer had been arrested for arson after setting his mother's car on fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In 1984, Spencer had been arrested for burglary on January 29.

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[SPEAKER_01]: only four days after the murder of Carolyn Ham.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would be found guilty, only to be released to a halfway house in Richmond in September of 1987.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only a short distance from where the Richmond murders took place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when looking at the house records, police made another discovery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spencer traveled from Richmond to Arlington, spending the Thanksgiving holiday with his mother,

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[SPEAKER_01]: detectives now had their first and only suspect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spencer was in both areas at the time that the murders took place and he matched the FBI profile to a T. With detectives learning that he lived only a short distance away from where the first reported rape took place in 1984.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Timothy Spencer was arrested on January 20th, 1988.

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[SPEAKER_01]: police took hair and blood samples, along with compensating his clothing for forensic analysis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when a jacket was tested, glass fragments were found.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, these fragments were examined, and they were determined to belong to the same broken window found at Susan Tucker's home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the biggest break in the case came when the results of the forensic tests done on the seamen came back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was determined that the sample found in Susan Tucker's Arlington home was the same person who committed the Richmond murders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when those samples were both compared to Spencer's DNA, it was a perfect match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spencer would be charged with rape and murder, with the trial beginning on January 11, 1988.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Marking the very first time DNA evidence would be used in a murder case in the United States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After the closing arguments, it took the jury only 7 hours to find Spencer guilty and sent in some debt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With Spencer being executed by the electric chair on April 27, 1994, opting not to make a final statement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: David Vasquez would be exonerated for the murder of Carolyn Ham on January 4th of 1989, after serving five years in prison for a rape and murder that he did not commit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In 1990, the Virginia General Assembly approved legislation granting Vasquez $117,000 in compensation and eruptly $298,000 today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's this week's case, and as always I just wanted to share a few final thoughts to wrap everything up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing that really stands out to me is that if these rapes and murders would have been committed just two years, three years before, there's a good chance that Spencer would have never been caught.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is insane to me to think that this technology that we rely on so much modern day, to both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: close cold cases and prove criminals guilty without, you know, any kind of shadow of a doubt, but then on the other hand, I also exonerate people who have been wrongfully convicted like that was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to think that this technology was not used in an American courtroom until 1988 is kind of mind-blowing, because I think especially, you know, being a child of the 80s and growing

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all the TV shows and everything that you grew up with DNA and that evidence just kind of been part of every procedural you've ever watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really easy to be like, oh yeah, well, they just used DNA and got them, but you have to think like there was a time when it was very experimental and new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I mentioned, I don't know if Spencer would have been caught in the same way if he had committed these crimes two to three years prior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I do think eventually he would have been caught.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've done so many of these cases where there have been advancements in that DNA and these people are caught 20, 30 years later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because of where we were in the technology and these detectives just saying, hey, we're going to take a chance on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's only been used one other time in another country, but there's a precedent there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of that, they were able to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a rapist and a murder or off the street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can imagine it must have been a very exciting time for both the detectives and the district attorneys and the prosecution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were probably both excited but also very nervous because again, you know, this whole conviction is

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of new experimental technology.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I found that to be very, very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other part of this story that that really set out to me was the fact that David Vasquez, you know, he served five years for a crime they didn't commit and that DNA evidence helped to exonerate him and

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the research, I mean, the Innocence Project has an entire profile of his case, it is linked in the description in the show notes if you want to go in and read about his case, specifically a little more in detail, but you know, he definitely had some challenges and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from what I could tell in the research, it seemed like he was coerced into giving that confession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even when you look at the evidence, like, even though there wasn't DNA, they could still run blood type from evidence that was found at Carolyn Holmes home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was not a match to the blood type that was found.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there was just a ton of things that said, this guy is not your killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it feels like detectives got such tunnel vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to close the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they coerced him into this confession and, you know, close the books on it and thank God for the detectives that were working Susan Tucker's case who were like, hey, something is not right here because without those detectives who knows if David Vasquez would have ever been exonerated right if Spencer would have ever been caught so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lot of elements to this case where as I had mentioned in the beginning, it feels like this should be a case that more people talk about, like I said, it should be more in the true crime, less to con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's just me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this is something that you are familiar with, definitely please, sound off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know because I want to hear your feedback and I want to know if this is something that you are familiar with or again, if you live in this area, is this something that you kind

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where you around at that time, I always like to hear what the impact on the community and things like that had had been from people who were there at the time, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, if we're talking debble test, I mean, this is 10 out of 10 all day, again, I know I've said it a million times, but home invasion stuff is really the true crime that just, I mean, it makes me the most uncomfortable, it gets my skin crawling because as I mentioned before, your home is supposed to be your safe place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to know that somebody is watching you and they're waiting, they're waiting for that opportunity when you're comfortable when you're least expecting it is absolutely terrifying to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've listened to this podcast for any extended amount of time, you know that I'm husband and a father and anything happening to either one of my girls is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the scariest thing that I can think of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so to think that these women were just home and they were taken from their families, their spouses, the life they could have led, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Diane chose case she was taken from her parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Diane had an entire life ahead of her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, to just think that you're in your bedroom, while your parents are in the living room, and something like this could happen, is absolutely horrifying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, I'm gonna put this at the 10, all day, but as always, I wanna hear from you, the listeners, the locksmiths, where does the South Side Strangler, Timothy Williams Spencer fall on your devil test?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can let me know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Reach out on Instagram, a check-allox pod, you can find me on Twitter, and check the locks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say it all the time, but it really is the best place on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you will be the best place to join.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is all that I have for you for this week's case, but please make sure that you're subscribed to check the locks on your favorite podcast app so that you never miss an episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will see you again next week with another truly terrifying true crime case, but until then, remember, monsters are real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So stay safe, stay ready, and don't forget to check the locks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See you next week.