The Texas Body Snatcher
A killer was hunting women across Texas, leaving behind a trail of murders that investigators believed had nothing to do with one another. With each case going cold, the killer remained free—until years later, a single piece of discarded evidence would finally begin to connect the dots. Join John Conner as he dives deep into the dark to discuss the brutal crimes of Faryion Waldrip. Will this case be enough to make you check the locks?
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Toni Jean Gibbs (1961-1985) - Find a Grave Memorial
Deep Dive: Faryion Edward Wardrip
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Wichita Falls serial killer denied federal relief
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[SPEAKER_01]: For nearly two years, women were being murdered across North Texas, and investigators had no idea the killings were connected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Different victims and different crime scenes, but somewhere in Texas, a killer was hunting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Join me, John Conner, as I discussed the victims of Farian Wardrip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Check The Locks Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello and thank for joining me as I dive into yet another truly terrifying true crime case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope it's been a wonderful week and that you had an amazing Labor Day with some high quality relax and time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've learned that doing the spotcast myself, it is a little more challenging putting together a true crime story when your kiddo was off school and want to hang out with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, again, really appreciate your hanging in there with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and speaking a Labor Day and the end of summer I think I may have spoken too soon because this heat is not breaking here in Tennessee over the weekend it got back to be in hotter than hell so it's like summer just does not want to call it quits so wherever you're listening first thank you for hanging out with me and let me share a little time with you why you're doing whatever it is you got going on but second I definitely hope that you are getting
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to tell you though, I'm super excited to jump into this week's case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I haven't covered a story like this in a while, and I think once we go through it, you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was also super surprised that I had never heard about this one before, but maybe you have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're familiar with it, please drop me a line, send me an email, Spotify comment, whatever, and let me know, because I absolutely love to hear what the locksmiths and the listeners think of the cases that I'm covering on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to quit the Gabby Gabby, we'll get to the Stabby Stabby, we're back so let's jump into this week's case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This week we're headed to Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On January 19, 1985, 23-year-old Tony Jean Gibbs was working as a registered nurse at the Wichita Falls General Hospital.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On this evening, Tony
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[SPEAKER_01]: police searched for the missing nurse and two days later her car was found empty on an abandoned road, only a few miles away from the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Investigators searched the vehicle, but unfortunately there were no foreign fingerprints or any other evidence to indicate what may have happened to the missing woman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The search would continue, but there was no sign of Tony.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then, four weeks later, on February 15th, an employee for the Texas Electric Company was working in a deserted field near Texas Route 281, and it was then that he made a terrifying discovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There, lying in the grass, was the naked body of Tony Gibbs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had been sexually assaulted and stabbed to death.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Investigators believe she had been attacked inside the bus before crawling out, hoping to find help, but that help never came.
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[SPEAKER_01]: DNA and other evidence were collected from the scene, and Tony's case had gone from a disappearance to a murder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives were now searching for a killer, and it wasn't long before they honed in on their first viable suspect, 24-year-old Danny Locklin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses reported seeing Locklin riding his motorcycle in the field, not far from where Tony's body was found, so he was brought in for questioning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, Locklin had been working as a male stripper, and he told police that he had met Tony at a nightclub only a few weeks before disappearance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Locklin claimed to be innocent, but when given a polygraph test, he would fail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Investigators would also test Locklin's DNA against the evidence of the crime scene, however the results would come back as inconclusive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But detective still believed they had the killer, and Locklin was arrested and charged with the murder of Tony Jean Gibbs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The case would go to trial and the prosecution would present its case, but it wasn't enough to convince the deadlock jury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With the proceedings ending in a mistrial, and the case being dismissed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, there was something investigators didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had focused on the wrong man, and more violent murders were still to come.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 16 months later, on May 6, 1986, there would be another victim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tina Elizabeth Kimbru, a 21-year-old waitress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tina's body was discovered lifeless on the couch inside of a ransacked apartment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had numerous bruises on her face and neck and legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her night gown had been pulled up and her underwear was found on the floor near her body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In autopsy would later find tiny fibers inside of her lungs, and when tested, they were a perfect match to pillows found on her sofa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Leading investigators to believe that Tina had been suffocated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They immediately began interviewing neighbors, and detectives learned that a man had been seen leaving Tina's apartment about five hours before her body was discovered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses described the man as tall around six foot two inches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was white with dark brown hair and wearing a baseball cap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives thought that Tony and Tina's murders could be connected, but there was a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Danny Locklin didn't match the description given by eyewitnesses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, detectives were left looking for a suspect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But only three days later on May 9th, a bizarre break would occur in the case, when police received a phone call
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[SPEAKER_01]: over 400 miles away from Wichita Falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The man's hope at least he was going to commit suicide, and that he knew something about the murder of Tina Kimbrew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This man was 27-year-old Farian Wardrip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wardrip was a high school dropout who had been born in Salem, Indiana in 1959.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At 19, he would join the National Guard, serving six years before receiving a less than honorable discharge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In 1983, he would marry his first wife, and the couple would move to which a tough falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where wardrobe worked meanial jobs while abusing drugs in alcohol.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, the marriage would not last long, and wardrobe in his wife would eventually divorce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, after receiving this strange call, officers were dispatched, and Wardrip was questioned, during which he made a startling confession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He told police that he had met Tina while she had been working at a local bar, and according to Wardrip, the two had become friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But something about Tina reminded him of his ex-wife, so he decided to take her life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Investigators were stunned by the confession, but believed Wargrip had only come forward because he had been seen leaving Tina's apartment, and it would only be a matter of time before he was caught.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wargrip was arrested and charged with Tina Kimberu's murder, and he would plead guilty and receive a 35-year sentence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, while in prison, Warjrip would earn his high school diploma, and he also claimed to have found Christianity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And despite objection from Tina's family, Warjrip would be released on parole in December of 1997, after serving only 11 years of his 35-year sentence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With his newfound freedom, Warjurp would move to only Texas, a small farming community not far from for earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking to be closer to his parents and eight siblings, once relocated, Warjurp began working at a local door and screen company, and he would also become a member of the Hamilton Street Church of Christ, where he taught Sunday school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would marry for a second time, but back in which tough falls, detectives as well as the district attorney were still hard at work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They began looking back at unsolved murders over the years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First, there was Tony Gibbs, where the suspect at the time Danny Locklin would walk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there were two other homicides that were haunting them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Only a year before Tony's murder, another nurse had been killed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 21-year-old Terry Lee Sims.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Terry was a part-time EKG specialist who was working at Bethania Hospital in Wichita Falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On December 21, 1984, Terry had stayed in a friend's house, studying for her upcoming final exam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But once she arrived, Terry's friend got called in for a double shift to the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Terry decided to stay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when the friend returned home the next day, she found her apartment ransacked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Concerned she searched for Terry, only to find the young nurse dead inside the bathroom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: laying in a pool of her own blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Tony Gibbs, Terry had been sexually assaulted and stabbed, and her hands had been bound with an electrical cord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Investigators were able to recover a semen sample, as well as a bloody partial fingerprint found on Terry's shoe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, DNA testing wasn't as readily available at that time as it is today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There had been several suspects,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, another victim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 21-year-old college student Ellen Blau, who worked as a waitress at a local restaurant called Substance Woods.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On September 20th, 1985, Ellen was abducted while walking through the parking lot after her shift, with her attacker forcing her into her car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ellen would not be found until October 10th, and like Tony Gibbs, she would be located in a grassy embankment and a desolate area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Already in advanced states of decomposition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because of this, investigators could not be sure if she too had been sexually assaulted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Allen's car would also be found abandoned on a dark road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The murder of these three women had gone on salt for 14 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the district attorney asked detectives to take another look, hoping to finally close their cases and catch their killer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They began by comparing the Seaman samples found at both the Tony Gibbs and Terry Sims crime scenes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when the results came back, it was a match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The same man was responsible for their murders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Many wondered why this hadn't been no-to-suner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, at the time, three different law enforcement agencies had investigated Tony and Terry's murder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the 1980s, agencies didn't communicate the way they do today, leading to a disconnect between them and making it easy for predators to hunt their victims.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives now knew they were dealing with a serial killer, but with more than a decade having passed, they feared that catching him may prove to be difficult.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they went back to the case files, reviewing interview notes and eyewitness statements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And while going to the file on Tina Kimberu's murder, they made an interesting discovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While speaking with Ferian Wardrip, investigators asked if he knew Ellen Blau, to which he responded, yes, but that lead had never been pursued.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when detectors took a deeper look, they found more potential connections.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wardrip had lived down the hall from Ellen Blau's best friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Additionally, Ellen only lived about a block away from Terry Sims, putting the victims in their potential killer and a close proximity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives also learned that Wardrip had been working as a janitor at the same hospital as Tony Gibbs at the time of remurder, quitting only four days after her disappearance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were just too many connections to be coincidence, so detectives decided to visit only Texas, hoping to collect a DNA sample from Ferian Wardrip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they didn't want to raise suspicion fearing that they may spook their only suspect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So detectives decided to watch the door and screen factory where Wardrip had been working, hoping to collect any discarded item that may contain as DNA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one day, they noticed Wardrip
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[SPEAKER_01]: When he was finished, he threw his cup into a nearby trash can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lead detective knew that this was his chance, so we put a big pinch of chewing tobacco in his lip and approached a suspect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Asking if he had anything he could use as a spit cup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: unknowingly, wardrobe volunteer the cup that he had thrown in the trash, voluntarily giving detectives exactly what they needed, and with that, the cup was set off for forensic testing, pulling a DNA sample from skin cells around the lid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that sample was tested against the seam and found Ontario Sims and Tony Gibbs, and it was an exact match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Farian Wargrip was their killer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, investigators in the Austin Crime Lab were able to lift the bloody fingerprint found Ontario's shoes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They compared that print to Wargrip's, and again, it was a match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Farian Warjrip was arrested in charge for the murders of Tony Gibbs and Terry Sims, and when confronted with the DNA evidence, he confessed to the murder of both, as well as Ellen Blau.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But investigators were not prepared for what Warjrip shared next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There had been a fifth victim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 25-year-old Deborah Sue Taylor, a wife and mother of two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wardrip told detectives that two months after murdering Tony Gibbs, he had traveled a fort worth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And while there, he met Deborah in a local bar on March 24th, 1985.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had been at the bar with her husband, but he had felt tired and left early, and that is when Wardrip approached Deborah, chatting her up and asking her to dance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and after a while he offered to drive the woman home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when they arrived at his car, wardrobe began making sexual advancements to which Deborah refused.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This put wardrobe into a rage, and he decided to kill her, strangling Deborah in the parking lot before dumping her body at a remote construction site.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She would be discovered five days later on March 29th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Deborah's husband would be the only suspect in her case for nearly 14 years,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Additionally, Danny Locklin was officially cleared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, he had died in the car accident three years before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On October 4, 1999, nearly 15 years after the murder, Farian Wargerat pled guilty to all charges, and he would be sentenced to death by lethal injection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For over 20 years, Warger pretended to appeal his sentence on both the state and federal levels, with the final denial being handed down on May 19th, 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today, Warger resides on death row at the Polansky Unit of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and Livingston, Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the time of this recording, an execution date has yet to be scheduled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's this week's case, and as always, I just like to share some final thoughts wrap everything up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first thing that's stuck with me about this case is the pain that the family is of wardrobe to victims must have gone through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, losing a loved one is never easy, but to lose someone in such a brutal way is absolutely heartbreaking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you think about the families of Tony Gibbs and Ellen Blau and Terry Sims and Deborah Sue Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They went years without any answers and without any closure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing the research and I learned that not only was Deborah's husband the only suspect in her death for 14 years, but his family and Deborah's family actually turned on him because
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was the only suspect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They believed that he actually killed his wife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to live for that many years, with that must have been so frustrating, like knowing you had nothing to do with killing your wife, but everyone believing that you did, I just can't imagine what that kind of scrutiny and isolation must feel like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think about the family of Tina Kimbrew,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in her case, they had her killer, they had wardrobe, he confessed, but he would only serve a fraction of that sentence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so again, I can't imagine how frustrating and angering it must have been to see this person who killed your loved one, right, who took the life of somebody that you care about, and they only serve a little slice of that 35 years sentence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that aspect of this case, it really got under my skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really bothered me a lot because
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I understand that this was the eighties and things were different, but had these agencies work together, these families would have gotten that closure and would have gotten those answers so much more quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that you can't place today's standards on police work back then, but you just wish, again, that these agencies working these cases that they just would have communicated a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say of course, like credit where credit is due, the investigators in these cases didn't forget the victims.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they continued to work for years to make sure that wardrobe was held accountable for the things that he had done and the horrible crimes that he committed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, there were mistakes that were made and mistakes that you wish wouldn't have been made and maybe could have brought a close and some resolution to these cases a lot sooner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but they stayed committed, which is really amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the last thing I'll touch on is wardrobe's whole finding Jesus thing and changing his life around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not buy it for a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything about fairy and wardrobe just screams self-preservation to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yes, he did turn himself in for Tina Kimberi's murder, but I think it was only because he knew that someone had seen him, and I think he really thought he would get a lighter sentence if he stepped forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, in my experience, if someone has truly found religion and they truly believe that
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're turning their life around and accepting that what they've done is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't walk around carrying that weight of something like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like with binding religion, there is an aspect of like penance and owning up to the mistakes that you made and not just being like, oh well, you know, Jesus loves me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So everything I've done as far as murdering these girls and these terrible crimes that I've committed, like we're all good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was no confession until he was caught dead to right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really do believe that once he was released for Tina's murder, he put on a mask and he was cosplaying being a rehabilitated, polite person and society.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have absolutely no doubt that there was still that monster underneath, and it would only be a matter of time before he would eventually hurt somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, let's not forget the fact that he was allowed to teach kids in Sunday school, like just that fact, is absolutely terrifying to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we're talking debble tests, this case is a 10 out of 10, these victims could have been anyone's wife or daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my wife walks,
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[SPEAKER_01]: through the parking lot if her office, you know, my daughter is going to grow up and move out on her own or have a job and have to walk through the parking lot, things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This could have been anyone in the idea that there are literal predators in the world waiting to strike the vulnerable and unsuspecting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is just terrifying and truly unsettling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as always, I want to hear from you, the listeners, the locksmiths, where do the crimes of fairy and wardrobe fall on your devil test?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is a group of amazing people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, being a dad sometimes I just get back into a wall with time there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anytime you let somebody know that it exists or you encourage them to check out an episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I've got for you for this week's case, but please make sure that you're subscribed to check the locks on your favorite podcast app so that you never miss an episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will see you again next week with another truly terrifying true crime case, but until then remember, monsters are real, so stay staying, stay ready, and don't forget to check the locks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See you next week.
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