Where's Savannah?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Warning, check the locks podcast as a true crime podcast and may contain graphic descriptions of violence, murder, sexual assault, and more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to check the box podcast as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm John Connor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Olivia Courtney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us this week as we dive into yet another truly terrifying true crime case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get started as always Olivia my friend, my co-host, my colleague, uh, it seems like the allergy monster is back in your house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you hanging in there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I live with two allergens, two cats, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, no, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was doing fine until I came upstairs and came and sat in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think it's you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jito, I sat down here to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw this linen shirt, and you're like, I'm allergic to those shirts now, apparently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shirts are bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one, hey, this is not like a fish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's a good shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is like a emo dad shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like hip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I picture you in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not my, not my fishing shirt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get you a pair of haydudes for your birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been so self-conscious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've not worn that shirt that you've been here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's been hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, whatever pieces I look like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Your shirt is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I might just go on the back of the closet now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I ever go fishing and I'll put it on, it's low.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get you some boat shoes, some spares.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I am sorry that your allergies hit me again when we hopped on for those who were listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was like rubberized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can't really see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, uh, super glad to be able to be here with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a, uh, at, uh, at, uh, looks like a pretty interesting episode coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this week is your case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm super excited to get into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I gotta tell you, dude, I have missed having you around the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like, what was it when, uh, you left on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, Thursday and Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, man, I wish I lived here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was still here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you, uh, you definitely felt like part of the family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my house is kind of empty, but I'll have a minute for me to miss you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got to come down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Millie's like, Olivia needs to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm living these come visit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she was very psyched to have you here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that when she ended up coming home that day, she was like, I don't get to say goodbye to Olivia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, well, we asked you if you wanted to come home early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a big decision for her to make.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't sure if she wanted to leave her friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't cut out cousin time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I did say buy to her at this blast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess where we went today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To the soak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were so sitting up, me and her care is staying home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I took her in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it half as packed or prepared for someone else, but the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was about fifty-eight percent less people, but about the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it actually was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The parking lot was just as busy, but there wasn't as many people there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was nice, but Millie met a little girl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She came running out to me and she said, Dad, I just met a girl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her name is Mia Sophia Pizzeria.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes, I swear, that's what she told me her name was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mia Sophia Pizza Rhea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what really called this little girl the whole time they played together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, pretty sure it's probably not her legal name.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, she met her match at the splash pad today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, there I'm fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This girl was like unchained level psychopaths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was walking around splashing people and she was, but like in like the best kind of way, like crazy little kidway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Millie, Millie came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes, I don't know what's up with this girl, but she's a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just took off running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a good time, but yeah, we went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been too hot, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd take her jail again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I take her so I can go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, let's just go stand in the water because it's so hot outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But well, that being said, again, this week is your case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of peek into the notes like I usually do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This looks super interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also heard that this was a suggestion from one of our listeners I heard you mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's from Corey Jones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Corey, thank you for suggesting this case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's another one, Corey might have suggested some of the feedback that we got was that, you know, it turns out our listeners like more than one part stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was looking into one of them and it looks like it might actually be able to break it up into maybe two or three pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to give any spoilers yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But definitely be on the lookout for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, you know, love doing cases that are listening or suggesting things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She would just jump onto it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On a cold Kentucky night in early January, twenty-nineteen, a young mother of four walked out of a lexington bar with three men she had just met.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By morning she was gone, no calls, no text, no goodbyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for the next six months her family would live a nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Desperate searches, empty answers, until one July evening when the smell of death rising from a strawberry patch would reveal the horrid they'd feared all along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was January, fourth, two thousand and nineteen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty-two-year-old Savannah Spurlock had just given birth to twins a month earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was adjusting to life as a mom of four, and this was her first outing since giving birth, which was a rare chance to be something other than exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She had joined friends for a drink at the other bar, a Lexington College Hangout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Around two AM, Savannah was caught on surveillance footage leaving the bar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was walking with three men.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moments later she faced time to mom from a backseat of a car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She seemed calm, tired maybe, but she said she'd be home soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Savannah never made it, and by morning her phone was off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No one could reach her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hours turned into days, days into weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was gone without a trace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Savannah's pearloc was more than a headline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was a daughter, a sister, and a fiercely loving mother of four young boys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At just twenty-two years old, she was working hard to rebuild her life after a rough patch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She had moved in with her mom Ellen and was looking forward to the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Family and friends described her as full of life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was funny, bubbly, and devoted to her children.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't reckless, she didn't run off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Her mom would later say she would have never left her babies, never.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what made her disappearance so chilling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This wasn't a case of someone walking away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Something happened to Savannah, and her family was determined to find out what.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now within days, Richmond Police and Kentucky State Police launched an intensive investigation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The surveillance video gave them an early lead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Three men who had left the bar with Savannah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All three were quickly located.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of them stood out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: David Sparks, twenty-three years old from Gerard County.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sparks told investigators that Savannah came back to his house that night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His home was about forty minutes south of Lexington.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to him, she had asked for his address to call a ride, and when he woke up she was gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Police weren't buying it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They searched his house on January twenty second just a few weeks after Savannah's disappearance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The scene was suspicious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A rug was missing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The walls had been freshly cleaned, and in the bedroom closet they found blood.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At the time they didn't have enough to arrest him, but they kept watching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For months, they combed rural Kentucky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Woods, waterways, landfills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They followed every lead, and all the wild David's barks kept quiet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Until the ground finally gave up its secrets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On July, tenth, two thousand and nineteen, sparks father called police.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a strange odor coming from a disturbed patch of dirt behind their home, which was an old strawberry field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That night, investigators returned with shovels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just before midnight, they made a grizzly discovery, a shallow grave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Inside, a body wrapped in black plastic and a rug.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The remains were badly decomposed, bound with tape, and buried just nineteen inches deep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The next morning, dental records confirmed what everyone feared.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was Savannah Spurlock.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The rug, it matched the one missing from the sparks bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Back in January, police had also discovered a handwritten letter in sparks room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It described violent fantasies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things like squeezing the life out of someone stabbing them in the chest and smiling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He called himself quote a born psychopath.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even creepier, it wasn't very deep in the notebook.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was right on page one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then there was the blood in the closet, which was later confirmed to be Savannah's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And digital evidence?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sparks had googled her case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had message friends saying police were on his ass, complaining that they thought he was a killer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: David Sparks was twenty-three, a construction worker with no criminal record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By most accounts he was quiet, maybe a little odd, but not someone expected would be capable of murder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the evidence painted a chilling picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other two men from that night told investigators that Savannah had become heavily intoxicated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of them said she was drifting in and out of consciousness, and Sparks had been touching her inappropriately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The two men left the house around four a.m.

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[SPEAKER_02]: leaving Savannah alone with sparks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was the last time anyone saw her alive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sparks had six months to hide what he had done, but in the end the grave was on his family's land.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The blood was in his room, and his own words gave him away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just hours after Savannah's body was found, Sparks showed up at the Richmond Police Station unprompted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said he'd locked his keys in the car and needed a lawyer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Police took this as a confession.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was arrested on the spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Initially he was charged with evidence tampering and abuse of a corpse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But with the remains confirmed, prosecutors quickly added a murder charge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When the news broke Savannah's family said the world won't quiet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They had held out hope and even as the week stragged on, but now they had an answer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't the one they prayed for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In August of the twenty nineteen, a grand jury indicted sparks for murder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He pled not guilty, but the evidence was overwhelming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bloody closet, the burial site, the disturbing letter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Prosecutors prepared for trial.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But before it ever reached the jury, sparks changed his plea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On December first, twenty-twenty, he pleaded guilty to murder, tampering with evidence and abuse of a corpse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In court, he admitted that he alone had caused Savannah's death.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He showed no emotion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Two weeks later, he was sentenced to fifty years in prison.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Under Kentucky Law, he must serve twenty years before being eligible for parole.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To Savannah's family, it wasn't enough, but it was something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Savannah's pro luck with a mother, a daughter, and a sister.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She went out for a few hours to enjoy life and she never came back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Her four sons will grow up without her, but her name will live on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's this week's case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, this one is a tough one for me and I think part of the reason for that is as you were going through the details of the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember when Millie was born and just what a fight it was to try to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember the first time we were like, we're going to go to Chile, and we're going to take the baby with us, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, she just was screaming and it, you know, it's just, it's so hard to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember the first time that Kara had gone out after giving birth to Millie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you got to think, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that, you know, anybody in our house is ever had a drinking problem or you think that, but we've always like enjoyed a good time, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it had been ten months, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, it's your first time out, the kid is, you know, with grandma and you feel, you feel like safe to kind of let loose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I remember that night was like, maybe like one too many, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we had fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, I was with her, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I can kind of see Savannah the same way that I saw Kara, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I've just had these twins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing nothing but taking care of these children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I finally get a night to go out with my girlfriend and have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, she did what a lot of moms probably do in like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: probably just went a little too hard in the paint because you're like, I got some freedom, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, yeah, and unfortunately, there was somebody that was out, you know, whether they knew it or not, they were hunting, you know, and it's just terrible that all she was trying to do is go out and unwind a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of sparks, like, her kids don't have a mother anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, her mother doesn't have a, you know, her daughter's lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's really sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one, again, like I have very vivid memories of that evening, you know, and so I could easily transpose one in for the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it, it hits pretty close to home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you, what were your thoughts?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it's just scary and general.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the thing that I think we need to teach the young men of this world is like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: The two dudes should have never just left them too alone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they knew she was not in her, you know, in her right mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And clearly, their friend was touching her inappropriately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like there were signs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I just think that if you see something, say something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I feel like a lot of this could have been prevented.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, we've all been there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've all drank too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Had one too many.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I had a lapse in judgment for a short time, but, you know, unfortunately hers ended up in the loss of her life, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like she should have never left with the three of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm definitely with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that brings up a really good point, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what in the world would these other two dudes think in?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just being like, oh, we're just going to leave this and nebryated woman who's, you know, passing in and out of consciousness with our friend who's been groping her why she's asleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying like, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're also like, twenty two, twenty three, but I still feel like that's old enough to know better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, that's like you should know, right, like I've never, I've never been with anybody where in a situation, I think, you know, anywhere I would even think that that was okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe they didn't, maybe they weren't worried because they didn't think their friend would do something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I might have been touchy feeling with her, but then at the day like he's gonna go to bed, he's gonna put her to bed and that's the end of it, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he doesn't have a track record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So who knows what they really thought, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, just some settling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I remember when I was in the band of playing shows, like, we would give, you know, we would see people like women would come to our shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at this time, I mean, like, you know, I would say girls just at this time they're probably, you know, young twenties or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they get hammered, you know, a lot of the people that came to our shows, like we knew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, no, dude, like, we're gonna make sure you get home, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean and so like you and not only are you going to get home okay you're going to get home okay roll roll them with a group of like seven dudes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make sure that nobody else tries to take advantage of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like especially and you know especially if you grew up in kind of the the time that I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a real bummer because a lot of the people you really looked up to you find out later we're doing like terrible things you know what I mean so it's like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just super important that there is some, like, you're, like, you said the message to young men, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, if you see your dude doing something, they're not supposed to be doing like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: call them out on it, you know, and make sure that that young lady gets home safe or gets to someone who can help her, you know, because if they would have taken action like you said, like she could very well, still be here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, maybe they didn't think that, you know, he was, he was going to murder her by any means, but like, you know, it still shouldn't be cool to be like, well, he was just being highly inappropriate with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we just left, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's just sad all over man is like, you know, you think about, I mean, she like she had twins that were a month old, you know, saying she got to be those kids mom for a month before her life was taken from her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now these kids have to grow up their whole life being like, you know, I don't have mom, you know, it's it's just hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hard one to get through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Corey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for sending this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For talking deadbolt test, what do you think it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, for me, a hundred percent, this is going to be a ten for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, you know, Kara goes out and she has like girls nights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, she's at an age now, like she's not, I feel like this is a normal thing with people in like their young twenties, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you haven't established the boundaries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know where to be like, okay, I can get to like drink number three and I know I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't know I'm gone and tell them I'm like drink twelve, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe not so much now, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Cara goes out for girls nights, Cara, you know, we'll go do things in Nashville and and go meet people and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is one of those things where it's just like, you never know who is just they're looking, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's there like I and who's just looking to take advantage of somebody and hurt somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so this would definitely for me out with this out with this at ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you where you put it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you put it that way, I'm going to put it up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to give it an eight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is scary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a matter of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, meeting the wrong people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I talk to everyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need a stranger.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you sit next to me, I'm going to carry a conversation with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like I met my friends at the gold plate content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm going to sit there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get to know you if we're going to enjoy a space together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I can see that happened into anyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you park a car next to the wrong person?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you just happen to go into the wrong restaurant bar at the wrong time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, so I'm going to give it an eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm surprised that I'm coming in higher than you in this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I do think part of it is like the, you know, losing, losing your, your, the mother to your children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think there is like the parental element.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that's why you said you've been there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been in that moment when Karen didn't drink for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: probably year or so, but you know, I'm like, it's a long time and then you feel like, oh, I get my body back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can only imagine what that feels like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, she wasn't like, well, lingerin or anything like, you know, by that means or, but it was one of those things where I'm like, man, I'm glad that I'm here because I can tell that she's, you know, she's not out for a long time, but she's out for a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but like I said, I think we've all been there, you know, like I one time I was in uh, downtown women, which is the town that I grew up in and I've just been doing shots with friends and this car full of like at the time, like, forty-year-old women were like, hey, get in and I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just got into the car with these women and I ended up in some sketchass biker bar like two towns over with a bunch of dudes who scared the hell out of me and I was luckily I had a friend who I was able to call him to like come get me but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just sitting there thinking, like, how did I get here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why did I make this decision?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's because I had had too many drinks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was down for whatever, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the women, they got you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're scary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those middle-aged women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like how we're like middle-aged at forty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not middle-aged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Middle-aged all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, and also like now I'm that age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like twenty years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but, yeah, it's just, you know, I think we've all been there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You always have to have your guard up in an alcohol in high levels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes it super hard to effectively do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to make sure you have good people with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you're in a as safe of a place as you can be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just sucks that there was somebody out there like sparks that just wanted to hurt somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she met the was in the wrong place with the wrong psycho at the wrong time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that is where we fall in the deadbolt test for this week's case.

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