True Crime for the Short on Time: Whispered Words

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[SPEAKER_01]: Warning, check the locks podcast as a true crime podcast and may contain graphic descriptions of violence, murder, sexual assault, and more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to check the locks presents true crime for the short on time as always.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm John Connor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Olivia Courtney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing for joining us this week as we dive in to get another truly terrifying bite size true crime case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Olivia, my friend, my co-host is good to have you back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I missed you for the Monday episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that you're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to see how you been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's your week been?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's been not going on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just get ready to go on vacation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Doing what I do best vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you going this time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am going to the Great Island of Kurosau.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need an geography lesson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's the ABC Islands, Aruba, Bonneir, Kurosau.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are just quite north of Venezuela.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are Dutch islands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a Christmas weather.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Aruba Bahamas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I, my head, I was like, Montica.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you spell curious out?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I might be getting into that because- Well, the special letter, I don't know what that letter is, but- There's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's somewhere a couple dots over some letters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's more like a hanging looks like a cube, but not a cube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that one is either so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to miss for our listeners out there the next couple episodes because Olivia is going to be out of time are going to be some short on time episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have one that she may just kind of be phoning in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, next probably three to four episodes are going to be a little shorter, but, you know, again, just wrapping up the summer and getting that traveling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll be back to normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotta, you know, gotta make sure you get time to get your relaxation and your travel on and all that, so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the kids are going back to school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's time for me to go on vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's when Olivia wants to go to the Caribbean when she's like, when there's no children there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put those little bastards back in school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the beach.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I am super glad to have you back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This week is your case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you say should we quit the Gabby Gabby gets at the stabby stabby, go ahead and jump on into it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On the morning of December, twenty at nineteen ninety one, Lori's mother Hazel Show discovered her daughter was lying on the bedroom floor of their home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Her throat slit and body riddled with more than two dozen defensive wounds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In those final moments, Lori managed to whisper just three words.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This would later shape the focus of the investigation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Investigators quickly honed in on three suspects.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lisa Michelle Lambert and Tabitha Book, both classmates of Lori's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They also focused on Lawrence Butch Yunkin, Lori's ex-boyfriend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Evidence showed Lisa had been consumed by jealousy after Lori dated Butch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't help that Lori had accused butch of rape, a claim that would further fuel Lisa's resentment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lori had endured weeks of stalking and threats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Witnesses reported that Lisa repeatedly vowed to scare Kidnapper kill her, and the harassment extended beyond school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lisa appeared at Lori's workplace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lisa and Tabitha would taunt Lori in public settings like the mall and at school events.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on that fateful morning, Tabitha buck called Lori's mother, pretending to be a school counselor and prompting her to leave the house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That cleared the path for Lisa and Tabitha to enter the residence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Prosecutors alleged that Tabitha restrained Lori while Lisa inflicting the fatal stab wounds and slit her throat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, butch was waiting nearby.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He later admitted to helping dispose of evidence by throwing out their bloody clothes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Evidence at the scene supported the prosecution's account from scratch marks found on Tabitha, make up belonging to Lori and her purse, and the murder weapon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Police arrested all three suspects later that day at a local bowling alley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the ensuing trial but agreed to testify in exchange for a reduced charge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He pleaded guilty to third degree murder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha was tried as a minor issue with seventeen years old and convicted of second degree murder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lisa was found guilty of first degree murder and conspiracy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both women received life sentences without the possibility of parole.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However years later Lisa Lambert's conviction was briefly overturned by a federal judge in nineteen ninety seven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was due to a prosecutorial misconduct, including suppression of evidence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, this decision was overturned in nineteen ninety-eight by the third circuit court reinstating her conviction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha Bucks case was later affected by a Supreme Court ruling on juvenile sentencing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was recentenced and granted parole in December of twenty-nineteen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: After nearly twenty-eight years behind bars, she was released under strict conditions prohibiting contact with Lori's family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now in the wake of her daughter's tragic and violent death, Hazel showed turn to grief and to advocacy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She became a prominent voice in Pennsylvania's fight against stalking, and her efforts were instrumental in passing Lori's Law in nineteen ninety three, a law that an act stronger statewide stalking protections.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's this week's case, John, which think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These ones always kind of hit me hard, especially, you know, my kids going into first grade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think about, yeah, how my sisters were and how girls in high school were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that they can be very capyches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a lot to call women bitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's just a time where people's hormones are raging and everybody wants to be, you know, the top, whatever, you know, the most popular, the most like sought after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just always sad because at the end of the day,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Laurie show lost her life and then, you know, there was two other girls who basically gave theirs up by committing the crimes they committed, you know, which they definitely should have been sentenced to the sentence that they received.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, you know, excusing it or if I thought, but it's just at the end of the day, it's sad for everybody because now

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have a child who's dead and then two other children who are behind bars because of some teenage drama stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we've done a lot of cases, you know, in the past three plus years where, you know, we see this happen and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's part of me that just wishes, you know, like their older self could just tell them like, hey, man, like, this is gonna pass and everything's gonna be fine and you'll have a new buck, young kid or in a couple of years, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know, it's just sad all the way around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, you know, again, as a parent, I cannot imagine what Hazel show must have been feeling, you know, coming home to just see what she saw and it has to see her daughter there, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did want to just clarify, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we referred to her as Lisa throughout the case, but it's Lisa Michelle, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just for the listeners out there, I just wanted to make sure because I know we heard Michelle in the beginning and make sure we knew exactly what we were talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's just sad overall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what about you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What were you thinking?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, you know, going back to the early nineties, it just seems like life was more simple than, and maybe it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just a young taught, but I feel like being a nineties kid, life was just simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're just a kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He played outside, you did all the things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so to think that teenagers were that unruly and hateful then makes me feel like

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's not a lot of hope for society today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If teenagers were able to kill in nineteen ninety one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is something that probably goes back as far as forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure there was, you know, teenage cave people that were everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think like from like a bullying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because that's something that really solidified this case in time for me when you were like, they were bullying her at the mall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and now kids would be like, what is the mall?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you said go to a store to buy stuff and just use Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that aspect of it of like, you know, going to the mall and just hanging out because there was nothing to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember doing that as a kid, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's not the world that we live in now, but the world we live in now makes it way easier to engage with people instantly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, online bullying and harassment can go from one person to a thousand people in, you know, an hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just sad to see kids who have their whole life left and are just like, I'm gonna throw it away in this one instant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just it bumps me out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it's like any relationship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It gets better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you're in high school, you think you're in love and, you know, whether or not but you raped her is one thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we don't know all the details of that, but it's just sad to know that something so small turns out to be a loss of life when you could have just moved on and eventually I wouldn't be friends in a few years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm glad that things something good came out of it and that the law was passed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always like when good things happen from a bad situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also one of those things to like I did in the same girl all four year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I did the same girl from eighth grade all four years of high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we dated for like five years and I'm ever being like a sophomore feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna bury this girl and we're gonna have babies and you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like my life when I was a junior senior in high school was like, oh, I know what's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like thank God it didn't get you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in that moment, you know, that was like my whole world because you're so young in your world so small.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, so

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we're talking about devil test.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think something like this, maybe it shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is high for me, but I'm definitely going to put this at a seven because I can't help thinking about, you know, my kid is going to be a teenage girl someday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to interact with other teenage girls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, bullying and all that is only gotten easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think as a society, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm hoping that that their generation is more

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of like they are with like the drinking and substance abuse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, you know, they're, they don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Gen Z is a, yeah, Gen Z drinks way less than, you know, millennials and millennials drink way less than the generation in front of us, but I mean, speaking of drinking, you don't have your beard tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, tonight, I'm drinking a unsweet tea from goldbeaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, no, but you know, just one of the things where I just, I hope

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[SPEAKER_00]: the world continues to get better on that front, but it's just scary thinking about what kids are capable of doing to each other when you have a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I put this aside and what about you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to put this one out of five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing too crazy, nothing too scary, but yeah, I don't like when it's just a senseless loss of life is what this one is for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is for sure, a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that is where we fall in the debble test for this week's case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Olivia is coming in at a five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going a little bit higher to seven, but as always, you want to hear from you.

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