True Crime for the Short on Time: Go Big or Go Home

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[SPEAKER_00]: Warning, check the locks podcast as a true crime podcast and may contain graphic descriptions of violence, murder, sexual assault, and more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to check the loss presents true crime for the short on time as always.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm John Connor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Olivia Corneau.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for joining us this week as we dive in to get another truly terrifying bite size true crime case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But before we do that, Olivia, my friend, my co-host, my travel buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Long time no see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's been like a few hours, maybe three, four hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know is today was a little bit of a whirlwind day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Olivia actually before we recorded this episode, she flew home from a visit here in Nashville.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we woke up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We thought your flight was delayed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then delayed all day was supposed to get home late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then lunch time just turned back to normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was, you know, doing my day job and my plan had come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My plan had been to come out and be like, hey, you know, I'll see you later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I get a text.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I'm gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to leave the change of plans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, you stay in my house and then you ghost me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the craziest thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was delayed as soon as basically I got up this morning and then I was supposed to get home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was supposed to leave there at like four something and get here about six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was going to be getting here at like nine p.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So me and Cara went on about our day and then all of a sudden we're at lunch and it's like, uh, inspection normal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to wrap it up and get home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, uh, it was definitely crazy because I just, I felt bad because, you know, I'm usually someone who's like, thanks for coming and, you know, I felt bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were on a call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't come in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was doing a training today for a group of people in my, in my day job, but, uh, you know, it was just so great to have you and to be able to spend time and then to see you form an alliance with my wife, which leaves me even further outnumbered in my own home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, John's easy to pick on when there's two of us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that I'm easy to pick on when there's only one of you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this was just reinforcement, but I was just watching these two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was so nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I got a new bestie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we had a big group message going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, people can shit on me via text.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So super excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, it really was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so much fun to have you here and to get to spend that time, you know, especially we've been doing this virtually for so long to just get to like hang and and do things together was it was so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited for the next one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we have the opportunity to do a Facebook live, which I, I mean, I don't know about you, but I absolutely loved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we plan on, you know, being on there for like an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For like an hour, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was how long, two hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like two hours, fifteen minutes or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love meeting people and talking to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've met pretty most everybody on there, but it was nice just to like, but names, the faces and have face-to-face conversations via Zoom, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's also awesome, you know, some people in the Facebook group were asking us questions and we were getting case suggestions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it was just again, a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would really like to do it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I found out that people actually enjoy the multi-part, like the part one, the part two, which, you know, again, I get one Spotify comment that's like, I hate this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm never doing it yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's it's cool to get that feedback and I definitely am looking forward to doing it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be I think it's good to get that feedback and people spend time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, this feels like a family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that just kind of solidifies that feeling a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to put a caveat out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been home all of what, maybe two and a half hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My animals might be all up in this episode because they are just so excited to be here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be here with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been about four days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll not the dog but the cats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're all right here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's finally got to get there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're loving to not a problem at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely not a big deal, but yeah, we definitely want to do the Facebook meetups again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got some really good ideas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe do some in person meetups in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently there's people live in places with a lot of good food.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going to Connecticut for pizza.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, we got to go to Virginia and hang out with Aaron and have a DJ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a party.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you would like to be a part of the next one, we normally talk about it at the end of the episode, but join the Facebook group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a link in the description of this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go sign up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on over and hang out with us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'd love to have you as part of the family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think the other thing we have to talk about is the coal play concert because it was so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had such a great time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think y'all were pleasantly surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have a cold play fanatic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are my band.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will always be a cold play person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like y'all like them, but I feel like you really like them now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've always liked Coldplay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All their radio singles, like, respect them as musicians, their harmonies are amazing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, I've always liked, I feel like you have this, this thing where I kind of look at, you think I look at Coldplay, like, people look at Nickelback or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where I'm like, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people are like Coldplay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, they're the greatest out there, they're great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think they have that, you know, and very much like from the concert right when it's like, hello, my brother.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very, I think they have the very,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they kind of fall into a lot of people they kind of fall into the Dave Matthews thing right where it's like like you're a whoa middle aged white man like this has to be your band right where I don't agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're amazing musicians.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew the concert was going to be awesome just from the fact that you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I knew it was going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I cannot believe that they, I mean, if you have not been to it to one of their counselors, they tore it up for over two hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as somebody who like grew up playing shows and has played, like we bigger venues and stuff like to play for two hours straight out of that catalog is super, super impressive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it never really got

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were spots where it's kind of slowed down with drag a little bit, but it was by design.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't feel like it was boring, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like, they added to their new music is very like, I'll call it spiritual worldly, you know, world peace, you know, they just want everyone to get along for once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, there's a point where they kind of like do a few of those, and you know, they're the ones that are on the radio things that you know, but they also play some that aren't so familiar, but I mean, they hit hard and the gold play concert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Being out of rave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like, you know, there was a couple of songs like yellow is one of my favorite songs of all time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fix you is one of my favorite songs of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh geez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a Latin remix of clocks that I dig way harder than the actual album version.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody remix it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's way better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll send it to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's way better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But for me, fix you in yellow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I recorded the intro to yellow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then as soon as those drums came in, it kicked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, OK, I'm done recording.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to enjoy the song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy the song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you want to have it because it's so great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the same time, I record little snippets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just want to be here and be in the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this tab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know if you listen recently in June, I went to Vegas and saw Coldplay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was an enclosed stadium, so I didn't get the fireworks this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got the fireworks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they doubled down with the fireworks at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know who knew that you would get them at the end, like that I knew they would have them with this guy full of stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry for moaning it for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, yeah, the end of just like more fireworks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got more confetti was able to get confetti up both shows, put it in my little collector box and left some for Millie, which was nice to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's got some.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, so if you go to the show, they give you these are called moon goggles and you're supposed to put them on at a certain point in the show, but it makes all the lights that you're looking at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, depending on, I guess, depending on the show, it projects like different shapes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we went into Millies Room where she has that astronaut with all the lasers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a whole light?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Each little laser dot will star.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's crazy looking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she's very happy to have them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we didn't know everybody around us seemed to have hearts, but in Vegas, one of my girlfriends had either, it was either stars or crosses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause we were like, oh, what do you see?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking up the hearts and they're like, hearts, I don't have hearts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but they also didn't pass out the pins, which I thought was a little disappointing, because they still have fourteen shows left to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need a revamp on the pins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a really cool experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was telling Kara, like, especially during those songs that I think really mean a lot to me that I connect with a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was an album.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I grew up going to church, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the Southern Baptist Church people, you put your hand on your chest and you got your arm up and you're like singing and swaying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a, yeah, there was at one point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it was, I think it was yellow where I was just like, oh, this feels like I'm a kid in church again, like it's like moving you in the same way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would definitely recommend going to see them if you can, you know, they've been around forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they have the ability to be like, we're going to do an insane stage show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just a lot of fun and Keith Urban showed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But say Keith Urban showed up such a nice surprise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kept saying there was a surprise guest, but then I just figured, I don't know, maybe it's after what they posted because there was three openers and in Vegas, there was only two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's also a Palestinian female artist named,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elana, I want to say it's EL YA in an age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got an amazing voice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has to definitely check her out too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Keith Urban was cool coming on stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool is to go to Wimbley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I bought my ticket on my way home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm kidding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was going to say you bought tickets for a Wimbley stadium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I do have a dream.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I do want to see a show there at some point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the Beatles have sold out Wimbley multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The food fighters have sold it out multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like

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[SPEAKER_02]: I also realize that I think for me the way that you love Coldplay, I don't know if you ever mess with them or not, but I love Snow Patrol.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like Snow Patrols, I have a lot of people kind of hate on Snow Patrol.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you don't understand their catalog is amazing, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, overall, it was such a great experience having here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The concert was awesome and we got, I mean, we ate such good food, assembly food hall was a lot of fun and hanging out there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: only got into one fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're out of concert that's all about like peace and love and love.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The singer is literally like, you know, look at your name and tell me love.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said them love from across the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell them they're great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: mean our seat neighbor was get out of my seat when I wasn't even in it, but whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just heard say, can you scoot over?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, uh, I'm standing in the aisle and both of both of the ladies that I'm with are in front of their chairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she was in front of mine, half in front of mine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She sees you miserable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, lady, if you wouldn't have elbowed me, I wouldn't have said anything when you smart of off to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll throw down when I'm not in the wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I looked at Karen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, just let me switch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me take this seat right next to her, because I'm not a small guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be like, I'll be a man spreading and stretching out the whole show and her boyfriend is miserable too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he just did not want to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was just ruined it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, that's why I took her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said she's ruined it for herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's taking a wonderful, wonderful fun and loving concert and making it pissy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think eventually after her boyfriend kind of put her in her place and was like, you're not standing in front of your seat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're like, you're not in front of your seat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't get on to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not in front of yours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she kind of seemed like she kind of like lightened up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, it was just such a great time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, the way that we were seated, we were, you know, in different, like same section different rows, but it was awesome because everybody was like, we're just gonna stand in the aisle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we all got to stand together and it was, it was a lot of fun and really good time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm definitely excited for more trips, whether we're coming down there, you come back up here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, you know, we do in the future, I'm excited to get more time to hang out and have more ventures under our belt for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I could keep talking on and on about the trip and about how great the Facebook live was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to watch that, it is on the Facebook so you can go back and watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know this supposed to be a short on time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of figured this one would be a little bit longer because of all the chapter beginnings that we didn't have one, like a traditional episode for Monday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is a true crime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as we do have to get into the case of what do you say?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Should we quit the Gabby Gabby get to the stabby stabby and jump into the case that I brought for us this week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For this week's short-on-time case, we're headed to Bexer County, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On July, nineteenth of this year, the local sheriff's office received a strange phone call.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The person on the other end was concerned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to the caller, his father, forty-nine-year-old Charles Bird, had made a terrifying confession, telling his son that he had killed his stepmother, forty-four-year-old Angela Bird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Deputies responded to the scene meeting the caller at a rule trailer in South Bexor County, and that is where they made a gruesome discovery.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Inside the home where the decomposed remains of Angela Bird, her body had been wrapped in plastic, carpet, and blankets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All held together by ratchet straps in an attempt to hide the victim's body and mask the odor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the crime scene was horrific, but there was no sign of Charles Bird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He would later be found hiding out at a friend's property, less than a mile away from the crime scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Once arrested, Bird would provide the grizzly details of what he had done to his wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to the suspected killer, he had come home early to surprise his wife on June sixteenth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when he got home, he suspected that Angela had been waiting for another man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: believing that Angela was cheating the couple got into a verbal altercation, which eventually turned deadly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to Bird, he began choking Angela while biting her face several times, ultimately ending her life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When he was finished, he attempted to conceal his wife's body by wrapping it in plastic and carpet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Charles Bird would live with his wife's remains in the home for thirty-two days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At one point, disposing of a trash bag of decomposition fluid residue in a local school district dumpster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bird later told police that he thought about turning himself in, but he had wanted more time before having to face the consequences of his actions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, surprisingly, the forty-nine-year-old has no criminal history.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when this was mentioned a bird by the police, he responded, go bigger, go home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: An autopsy would determine that Angela Bird's cause of death was related to homicidal violence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Charles Bird has been charged with murder and tampering with evidence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He faces a total bond of up to six hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he can bond out, he has been ordered not to contact the victim's family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll be placed under house arrest and is not allowed to possess firearms.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Authorities have also placed Bird in a suicide prevention smock since his booking after concerns were raised regarding his emotional state and risk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, for anyone listening, if you or a family member are a victim of domestic violence, there is a way to get help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Please, you can contact the domestic violence hotline at eight hundred seven nine nine seven two three three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, that's eight hundred seven nine nine seven two three three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can also text begin to eight eight seven eight eight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, that's the word begin to eight eight seven eight eight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Olivia, that's this week's case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As always, where's your head at?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you thinking?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this one was a shorty, but this one was gruesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he even have proof that she was cheating?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he was just making this up in his head?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in the research, police asked him that exact question, like, how do you know she was cheating?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And his response was, you had a checker phone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he told police where her phone was, they were able to locate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, by all accounts, he's been very forthcoming with everything that happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they've located the phone, they haven't in their possession, but they have yet to confirm or deny on there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if, you know, it particularly matters to them or if it's worth there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he was, you know, just basically, yeah, she was cheating on me and we got into a fight and then I strangled her to death and bitter face a bunch of times until I killed her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like you've been bitten before and you've bitten someone as a child, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As it definitely is a child.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not buying care at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the if you bite someone like I just can I can I don't like that feeling like not being bitten but like doing the biting like I wasn't I don't think I was a biter because even like if I remember being a child and just like biting into someone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that taste.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The feeling, I don't know if it's a taste or a feel like, I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't understand how you can just like go to town, knowing on someone's face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely feels like it'd be like a weird texture on your thing, you know, like thick and meaty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like crystal on chicken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I don't know, not my face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny that you said that because that's immediately like what my like my brain went to when I was reading it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, if you think about like a pork butt, you know, or something before it's cooked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just if you were just to like bite into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's definitely gross.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think about?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think to me, the the most startling thing about this is, I mean, he'd live with that body in the house for three or two days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just disgusting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the point where he's having to get rid of fluid that's coming from the decomposing body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I wonder, did he just, I wonder, and you may not know the answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he confess to dumping it at the school or did the school like report to the police like something as definitely off its mills like, not a normal trash in the dumpster?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, so he definitely confessed and was like, this is what I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was also a master plumber for the school district.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he knew probably like, which dumpster to go to, where it'd be, you know, a little more low key, you know, maybe it's easier to get away with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, obviously he since been fired from the school district, but yeah, he had worked for the district for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also think his bond is way too low, and I also don't think that he should even be eligible to bond out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, you can't you just go get bill bonds and get a bill bond, but you have to like pay the loan back to how that works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can, but six hundred and fifty thousand dollars is a lot of the odds that he's going to bond out are probably pretty low.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just one of those things where he's probably not, they were living in a small trailer in a rural area.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you think about flight risk, he's probably not hopping a plane and leaving the country.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If that sounds like if anything, they're more worried about him killing himself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like most of these cases like you have to do something like particularly heinous to get no bond whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're to revoke and be kind of bond.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What more heinous can you get the eight or face off and hit her for thirty two days, thirty four days?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I listen, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, I'm not being there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, yeah, you should definitely, you know, pull us in that bed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, most of the time when we do this cases, it's something like just super crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's either that or it's something I know is worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's a text law or baby Texas is more lenient or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not sure, which, you know, when you think Texas, you know, necessarily think lenient.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that as soon as I said that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but I did want to ask you about this because I think the comment that that really got under my skin the most is when they asked him about his criminal record and how he'd never been in trouble before the go bigger go home that I was like, oh, this person is is

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[SPEAKER_02]: either a psychopath or a sociopath because what is the psychopath knows what they're doing is wrong and they do it anyway and the sociopath just doesn't have any feelings about anything if I'm correct so it feels like it's one of the two but for that to be your response like yeah man never been trouble for but if I'm gonna get in trouble I'm gonna go bigger go home you know like that it just that creep me out real hard I didn't know if you had me

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he thought about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and maybe I think that is creepy that he said that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the kind of just to play Devils out of kit, maybe he was just thinking, well, if I'm going to get in trouble, I might as well get in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, if it was a just a domestic violence, and he like beat her up really bad, where she was hospitalized or something like, yeah, you're going to have tried as you're going to do time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's what he meant, like, go big or go home if I'm going to hurt her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to murder her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very unsettling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess according to his son who called it in, it was like a round father's day where like he, his, you know, bird just started being more reclusive, like stopped like answering calls or coming around or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and finally admitted to his son like, I killed her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so it's, it's,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just also trying to put myself in his sun shoes to be like, oh, great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we got to call the police on my dad because he killed my stepmother.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that is like a giant kind of shock and you know, trying to process like, oh, I'm like turning my dad in now and he'll probably go to prison for the rest of his life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's just a lot of elements about this case and I'm just like, man, this is like you said it's short, but it's really disturbing, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's short and deep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll definitely have to keep an eye on it for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really hoping that this one does go to trial.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I mean, honestly at this point, it does sound like he's just going to say like, yep, I'm guilty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't just whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, unless his defense attorney comes in and it's like, no, this is how we can spin it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll be interesting to see what actually plays out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if we're talking debtable tests, where does something like this fall for you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to put this one out of ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's, it's my rose and the eaten biting her face and keeping her body there for thirty, some days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gross.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gross.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It really is disgusting to be like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you're keeping this body in the house for over a month to the point where you're having to get rid of the waste and like in the research they they talk about meeting the sun at the trailer so we can let them in and like the smell that you could smell from outside like to know that you're like your dad was living inside that trailer when you can smell it so bad outside and you know you think about Texas in July

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stinky, what did I just tell you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of my animals killed a little rodent in my backyard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I walked outside in a smell of death hit me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, this is probably just a small little frog or a lizard or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, nothing crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can only imagine what a human life-sized body smells like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's just, I don't know, I think, you know, there's also just an element of like, you talk about all the time, but like, even if she was cheating, like, move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bye.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're not old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're forty, they're in their forties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, you have a whole life to live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm gonna meet my great love, forty four years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, uh, I think it's one of those things where that there's obviously some underlying mental illness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe this was just the, like, the straw that made the, the, the camel's back snap, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's, you know, had to be something, you don't go from like no criminal record and everything's fine to just like, yeah, I strangled her death and was biting her in the face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I let her stay with me for thirty two days, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to know if drugs are involved, meth, bath salts,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it didn't say anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would imagine, like, if you're working for the school district, you know, like, people fake drug tests all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I feel like if you're, you know, tweaking super hard, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, yeah, I'm here to fix your, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, let me in the classroom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to fix the, the, the sink or whatever, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know, maybe he didn't,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really weird because in his mugshot he's smiling and it is very unsettling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because just especially when you think of what he did and he's like, I'm here like smiling, but I don't know, it could be, it could be that drugs were involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was nothing definitive in the in the research there, so I don't want to be like, yeah, he's gonna get mad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, for me, I mean, I definitely, I would put this at a ten as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is something about

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[SPEAKER_02]: being thought of so little that like someone would take your life and be like, I'm just gonna wrap them up in plastic and you know, just stick them in the corner and just let them sit there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's horrifying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I would put this at a ten as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, we're definitely have to follow this one because I want to know what happens to this guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're working that yeah, the Angel's family gets justice and it's just sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you lose a love one in such terrible way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's heartbreaking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that is where we fall in the deadbolt test for this week's case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Olivia and I are both coming in at double tens, which I think has been the first time in a while that we've hit that high on the scale.

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