True Crime for the Short on Time: A Karaoke Killing

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[SPEAKER_00]: Warning, check the locks podcast as a true crime podcast and may contain graphic descriptions of violence, murder, sexual assault, and more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to check the locks presents true crime for the short on time as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm John Connor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Olivia Corneux.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing for joining us this week as we dive in to yet another truly terrifying bite size true crime case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get started as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Olivia, my friend, my co-host, my podcast, my sickly little orphan kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you hanging there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm getting a little better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not quite as congested, but now I have a great cough that I feel like we'll linger forever as one does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm doing okay, filling a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you sound better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You sound a lot better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's good to see you without a roll of toilet paper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm getting to the point where I'm dragging myself out so much that I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still sound, I feel nasally, but maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, you sound like you maybe have like a heavy chest a little bit, but like you're not like, a little fluid with a core dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm definitely glad you're feeling better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to be feeling better because you're coming into town on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I know rain shine sickness or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to figure out number one, how we're going to record a podcast in this room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And number two, I'm also going to make this your bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be

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[SPEAKER_01]: doing some moving and stuff, but it'll be, it'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for you to be here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a fun little sleepover.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh heck yeah, it's going to be a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see some cold play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get to hang out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not like when you came from my birthday was so quick and we were just rushing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be nice to be right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's just chill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to be good to be able to just like relax and get to do some fun stuff and go around the city and stuff it that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and I've never been to Nashville.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think you're going to have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can't have never been to Nashville.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen Nashville downtown proper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been talking to care about it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we could be like, hey, what would be be able to do that would go and be some fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll definitely make sure we have a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably have to keep with us so it has to be like family friendly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good time, but it'll still be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I even thought we could go to your magic branch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to we could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to look and see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they only do it on Saturdays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we've been holding off just because, you know, the weekends get so busy and then they only have limited availability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've been looking, but I have to check and see if they have it on Sundays for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be cool to see some magic and get some brunch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, get there early enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know you have homework to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both of us were talking about, we're just like, oh, man, we're so exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just jump right into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We quit the Gabby Gabby gets to the stabby stabby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's your shore and on time this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got for us when we can be talking about?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give a little caveat here that there is a little storm hitting my town right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we are notorious for losing power.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just in case we lose power, John could just post this intro and let people know what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or I'll drop a marker and we'll just wait for a long time until she comes back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, yeah, this week is mine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this case actually caught my eye because it's about karaoke.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The listeners know about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think you know this about me, but I love to karaoke.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I talked about it when I was on television.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But karaoke is my jam.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will get up and sing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it too, karaoke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There used to be a bar in Nashville, and I don't even know if it's opening more after COVID, but it was called Miss Kelly's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I loved it for two reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, I love karaoke, but two at the time, you could still smoke cigarettes in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was smoking cigarettes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So because you were technically a performer, there's a law that like if you're a performer, you can smoke on stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody would just be in there smoking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I actually won a trophy on our honeymoon for live band karaoke for this is how we do it by Montel Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is how we do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I went up there and they were like, what's your name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, John, they were like, where you from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nashville.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they thought I was going to do like, Garth Brooks or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was live band Gary Oki.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, everything hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this is how we do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody was like, ah, I didn't pay for a drink for the rest of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was on the cruise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's what caught my eye with this case is it's, you know, sadly around karaoke something that's very enjoyable that things that people do to have fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But of course, you know, we do a true crap podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So every story has a sad ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and also maybe like here, I could look at you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only a place that have karaoke popping off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was an end of band John.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot sing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all because you're not embarrassed by me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will not be embarrassed by myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all about having a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have two go to's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do this is how we do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what would you do by city high?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are my two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What would you do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was at home on the band.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, is he free?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a way to get sued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have the right kids in that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that's that's that's Majam.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a good time called karaoke podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So actually this episode is called the karaoke killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's jump into it before we have a lawsuit on our hands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a typical Friday night at Louis Quarter House, a local bar and book I Lake Ohio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Patrons gathered for karaoke the kind of care-free singing that made the dive bar beloved local hangout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Among the regulars on the night of July eleven of this year was forty-one-year-old Benjamin Hawke, a warm outgoing man known for his big voice and even bigger heart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hawke stepped up to the microphone and began to sing Lincoln Parks One More Light.

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[SPEAKER_02]: which I wasn't familiar with this song, and I don't think you were here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we Google that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was that shadow of the day that song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can sing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just can't sing the whole song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone was like to sing, start to finish karaoke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We interrupt this podcast so that Olivia and John can sing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you do from the beginning to the end?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Patreon content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry for interrupting God.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so we didn't know this song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we're familiar with this song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like this song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as he stood on the stage, pouring his heart into the lyrics and act of him unimaginable violence unfolded.

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[SPEAKER_02]: From behind, a man entered the bar with a clear sense of purpose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That man was fifty-nine-year-old Richard Lindgren, Hawk's girlfriend's ex-husband.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Without warning, Lindgren raised a gun and shot Benjamin Hawk in the back of the head killing him instantly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The witnesses were horrified.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The music stopped and chaos erupted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Lindgren didn't stay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He fled the scene and disappeared.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For law enforcement, it didn't take long to identify the suspect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just hours after the killing investigators connected Lindgren to the crime and issued a warrant for his arrest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The following day on July, twelfth he was tracked down and apprehended in South Carolina, or the four hundred miles away from the crime scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Authorities quickly arranged for his extra-dition back to Ohio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As the investigation unfolded, so did the motive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lindgren had a reportedly been harboring resentment towards his ex-wife and her relationship with Hawk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She and Hawk began dating shortly after her divorce was finalized.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And according to those closest to the couple, Lindgren had made his disdain known in recent months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He frequently attended karaoke nights to mock and taunt his ex-wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The DJ at Louie's recalled uncomfortable encounter saying Lindgren offered hurled hateful comments when she took the mic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had even been warned about this behavior just two weeks before the murder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At Lindgren's arrangement in Lincoln County, Ohio, prosecutors painted a chilling picture of a jealous man consumed by bitterness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They argued that he acted with premeditation and purpose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that he had decided if he couldn't have heard that no one else could.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The court agreed in the charge of serious, and a judge set his bond at five million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A preliminary hearing is actually scheduled for tomorrow July, seventeen, when this episode comes out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a grand jury is set to review the case on July, twenty-third for any additional charges that can be added.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as the legal system begins in slow-term, the community continues to grieve.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Friends and family of Benjamin Hawk mourned a man that they described as larger than life and what the voice of an angel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was more than a karaoke regular.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a generous kind soul who brought joy to those around him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So even though we joke about the karaokeing, this is just such a sad case, like just out of drawing your evening and next thing you know, someone's getting killed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I would be absolutely terrified because this is the kind of place where you go to cut loose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you drop your inhibitions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, most people who go to karaoke go to karaoke because they're not like world-class singers, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's like a few people who karaoke that are like, oh, they're like really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I karaoke with a few people that are like, oh, like she was in a rock band and she's actually a really good singer, but the rest of us are, you know, just they're fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just people having a good time, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like can you imagine just being at the stage?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just staying at the stage watching your friends sing and then all of a sudden their brains are blown out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it would be absolutely terrifying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I mean, I don't think you would comprehend what was happening in the moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just doing the girlfriend and the ex-wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that, like, this guy just continued to come and harass him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, nothing against the bar, anything like that, because I'm sure you get disorderly people and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, if this dude was constantly coming in and just harassing two specific people, I'd be like, watch for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't let him come in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like he may have snuck in through the back either way, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's that's the sign that like, hey, there may be some behavior that escalates here because he's not coming here to drink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not coming here to sing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's sitting here and just harassing these two very specific people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they in some of the research, the DJ is actually who approached him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did I came in, like, cut it out?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't be disrespectful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It says a fun environment, like, cut it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, not that shit off me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, people are just here to have a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be Raymond and being an asshole.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just, you know, he probably wasn't welcome there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I had to be a bedding woman because, you know, no one enjoys being around somebody that's harassing people like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an uncomfortable situation for everyone involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the bystanders, the people that it's happening to the, you know, people that are working at the bar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's just just devastating to know that someone can just be so hateful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I go back to the spouses' killing spouses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just leave them alone, start over, move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could say a ton blue in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's also one of those things, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, I think we all had those bars in our, like, you know, the apartment that I lived at in Michigan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I talked about it before, but like I could throw a tennis ball from my, like the front door of my apartment and hit this bar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was literally a cross street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody who went to this bar, they were the regulars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I imagine this is very similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you become friends with those people, like you go in, like, it's the same group of people hanging out regularly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's like sad to think that these people just went there to watch their friends sing and unfortunately saw them, you know, lose their life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's, I think it's just a bummer because karaoke and nature is such a fun thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and to have something so tragic happen, it's just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: sad for Hawks family and friends and you know, like I said, it's just got to be so surprising to have something like that happen in an environment like that, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but if we're talking dead about this, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not super, you know, terrifying, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I would probably put it in a six still, you know, it's one of those things where it's you're having a couple of drinks, you're hanging out having a good time and then all of a sudden this like horrific thing happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of liken it to, you know, the Paul's nightclub shooting or, you know, like the Aurora movie theater shooting, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're in this place where

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the last thing that would be on your mind, you know, and then all of a sudden you go from, I'm just having a good time, you know, enjoying myself till now, this is a life, life or death situation potentially.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's got to be, you know, just thinking about how the adrenaline would go through your body and how you'd be confused and scared and like looking for a way out, like that, I think that element of it really kind of gets under my skin a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I put it in a six, but what about you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I was just karaoke in about two and a half weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to put this one on like an eight for the same reason that just being there, being present in the moment of something happening, it's just being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I can see myself standing at the karaoke place, cheering everybody on, you know, and just something like that happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's devastating and traumatic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm going to put it about an eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just crazy how in like just a moment, something can go from normal or like a good time to the complete opposite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just had a guy here in my town who went into a liquor store because you know, Tennessee, we have, you have to go into a liquor store.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't go to like a grocery store or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: specific, this is where you buy liquor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he went in and he asked for a bottle of tequila and the guy behind the counter was like, you got something to pay for it with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the dude just pulled out a gun and started smashing bottles and fired around off with shooting it cops and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, I've got a liquor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, and down the street from where you stayed when, you know, I mean, so it was just like, Oh, love right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't like, you know, this isn't a town that's known for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know crazy crime or anything like that you know I'm saying so it just like doesn't matter where you are how safe you feel or anything like that like things can switch in a moment you know and I think that's the thing to take away from it again I think what also makes it so scary so

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